Why Hasn't God Answered Prayers Not to Eat? Featuring Amy Carlson [Podcast Transcript]

Title: Why Hasn't God Answered Prayers to Eat Less? Featuring Amy Carlson

Podcast Date: January 21, 2025

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You feel like you've invited God into your health goals. You've prayed. You've asked him to help you eat a certain way. You've asked him to give you "self control" around certain foods. Maybe you've even asked him to zap you skinny! But, it feels like he's not answering. It feels like it's hard, you obsess over food, you want to be free, but he seems to be silent. What do you do? Today, Heather Creekmore and Amy Carlson, (MS, RD and eating disorder specialist) talk about the whats and whys of our struggles with food and how to keep our eyes on Jesus (Matt. 6:33). If you've struggled with food, disordered eating, an eating disorder, or food obsession, this episode will encourage you. This is part one of a two part conversation.

Here are some other great episodes featuring Amy Carlson:

Have we Christianized disordered eating? https://omny.fm/shows/compared-to-who/have-we-christianized-disordered-eating-featuring

A "With God" approach to food and eating: https://omny.fm/shows/compared-to-who/a-with-god-approach-to-food-and-eating-featuring-a

Do I need more self-control to stop eating so much? https://omny.fm/shows/compared-to-who/do-i-need-more-self-control-to-stop-eating-feat-am

Romans 14 and good foods and bad foods: https://omny.fm/shows/compared-to-who/romans-14-good-foods-and-bad-foods-part-2

Learn more about Compared to Who? here: https://www.improvebodyimage.com

Transcript

Disclaimer: This transcript is AI-generated and has not been edited for accuracy or clarity.

Heather Creekmore [00:00:00]:

Life audio. Hey, front Heather Creekmore here. I'm glad you're listening to the Compare To Who podcast today. Today, I'm with my good friend, Amy Carlson, eating disorder specialist, dietitian, all around wise woman who has a heart full of grace and compassion and understanding around food and eating disorders and all the things related to that. And today, we have a great conversation about what maybe you've thought about. Like, why hasn't God answered these prayers I've prayed to stop eating so much or to eat different things or to start exercising more? Or why hasn't God just answered the prayer I've prayed to zap me skinny? So if you have thought it, prayed it, or wondered, what's wrong? I feel like I'm pursuing health and inviting God into my pursuit of health. Like, what's going on? That's where we're going today. I'm so glad you're here for it.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:02]:

Hey. If you're brand new to the show, welcome. I'm gonna link a whole bunch of podcast episodes Amy and I have done together. But you can also go to improve body image.com. Go to start here and find out all of the great podcast episodes, books, other resources we have available for you. Also, always encouraging you to do the 40 day journey with us. That's the easiest way for you to start your journey to body image freedom. We start the next one in March.

Heather Creekmore [00:01:30]:

So go to improve body image.com and look for 40 day journey to find out how to get involved with that. Why? Glad you're here today. Let's get to today's episode. Welcome to Compare to Who, the podcast to help you make peace with your body so you can savor God's rest and feel his love. If you're tired of fighting body image the world's way, Compare to Who is the show for you. You've likely heard lots of talk about loving your body, but my goal is different. Striving to fall in love with stretch marks and cellulite is a little silly to me. Instead, I want to encourage you and remind you with the truth of scripture that you are seen, you are known, and you are loved no matter what your size or shape.

Heather Creekmore [00:02:13]:

Shape. Here, the pressure is off. If you're looking for real talk, biblical encouragement, and regular reminders that God loves you and you're not alone, you've come to the right place. I hope you enjoy today's show, and, hey, tell a friend about it. Amy Carlson, welcome back.

Amy Carlson [00:02:34]:

Hey, Heather Creekmore. I'm glad to be back.

Heather Creekmore [00:02:37]:

It's always great to talk to you. And we've got so many conversations that are recorded in the archives. So if you don't know who Amy is or you've never heard Amy and I talk, I hope you'll go back and listen to some of those conversations we've had in the archives. We'll probably end up mentioning some of them today. But I get my best ideas in the shower. Nice. Nice. I don't know about you, but that's that's when god can speak to me.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:05]:

And and this week, I was just thinking about the reality of how many years I spent as a Christian woman, teen, 20 something, but as a Christian young woman, really into my thirties, praying that God would help me eat less.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:25]:

Mhmm. Mhmm. Praying that God

Heather Creekmore [00:03:27]:

would help me, especially, like, in January. Right? Praying that God would help me meet my New Year's resolution and eat whatever I decided I was gonna eat or not eat that, you know, for the year, which of course only lasted until maybe Valentine's day. Right? Praying that God would give me more, like, stamina and strength to exercise more. And in all of those prayers, Amy, like, sincerely believing that I was doing what scripture had asked of me.

Amy Carlson [00:03:57]:

Mhmm.

Heather Creekmore [00:03:58]:

Right? That I was seeking God first with this desire. And I probably would have called my desire for greater health even though now I see that that was probably pretty disturbed because I wasn't actually unhealthy. Unhealthy. Except for maybe the part of me that was always obsessed about my food and exercise and money that was unhealthy. But that aside, right? It was this quest to be healthy or right? All the ers. Right? Even though there wasn't a specific problem I was just trying to address, but but sincerely believing that I was doing it. I I hate to say it like this, but, like, doing it the Christian way.

Amy Carlson [00:04:34]:

Mhmm.

Heather Creekmore [00:04:36]:

And then sincerely wondering, like, why God didn't answer those prayers. And I mean, to the extreme, it probably be the prayer. It's like, God, can I just wake up £15 skinnier tomorrow? Like, that would just really help me out. Thanks, God. Like, that's me skinny prayer. But also just the, like and, you know, and this is a conversation we've had before and I hope we get into this a little bit today. My misunderstanding of self control, believing self control was really about having the ability or quote unquote willpower to diet better versus what self control really is. But but really sincerely believing that God wasn't answering my prayers for self control.

Heather Creekmore [00:05:14]:

He wasn't answering my prayers to help me stop eating as much. He wasn't answering my prayers to get skinnier And almost being confused or maybe even a little upset with God for not helping me on that mission.

Amy Carlson [00:05:31]:

Mhmm. And as I was so

Heather Creekmore [00:05:34]:

I was thinking about this, I'm in the shower, and I'm like, you know what? Like, I could have that conversation by myself, but my friend Amy has been handling eating disorders and has all the degrees and knows all the things and has been doing this for decades. And I feel like there's probably listeners out there who've never even like, who are maybe exactly where I was processing the same way, not thinking that has anything to do with eating disorders because that's really just about being underweight or throwing up. Right? Those are the 2 categories we have and and just confused. And so my hope for our conversations today is maybe we can kinda get into theology challenges, mental health, disordered eating, thinking challenges, all the things. But, Amy, let's pretend I'm your client. And I've come to you today, and I've said I've said, I am just upset because God is not answering my prayers to help me eat less. And I'm trying to eat like this, and I'm trying not to eat these things. And I'm trying to, you know, follow this schedule of how I should eat and the macros and all the things.

Heather Creekmore [00:06:52]:

And God's not helping. Amy, help me because God's not helping. What would you say to me?

Amy Carlson [00:06:59]:

Well, I would say, let's plan having several sessions. Or maybe whatever

Heather Creekmore [00:07:06]:

you say first. I love it.

Amy Carlson [00:07:07]:

To kinda just to kinda get you prepared. Back. Maybe maybe have a few more than what to say. But, you know, it's interesting, Heather, as a new client, I'll tell you this, the message that I hear in there is my desire is to glorify God Mhmm. In my body and the way I eat. And why isn't he helping me do that? It's a little even more nuanced, I think, lately in in in some of the language. So if you were my client, I I would ask, I wonder what makes you think God isn't answering it, number 1. What makes you think that God isn't answering your prayer? Mhmm.

Amy Carlson [00:07:51]:

And I and I would ask even more specifically, what is it exactly that you're praying for? And if you were to say, like, you just said, well, I I want, you know, god to help me eat less or, to have more self control around food, and I and I would say, so are you not having those things? No. I'm not. And I feel like god's not answering that. And then I would say, I wonder what makes you think that that God wants that. What makes you think that God wants that? What makes you think that, you know, there's a lot of things in scripture that we know clearly God wants. He wants us to love and pray for our enemies. He wants us to seek him with our whole heart. He wants us to meet in community with other believers.

Amy Carlson [00:08:39]:

He wants us to look out for the poor and the widowed and the orphan. Those things are really, really clear. And so when we ask the Lord for those things, right, when we ask the Lord, god help me to see the widows amongst me. Help me to see the orphans, the people that that are living right next to me that I don't even see. And then Lord, would you help me help them? Yeah. We we can be pretty sure that that God has heard and what's on that prayer. But I might ask, I wonder where you're getting idea that God really desires this for your life. What might you say then? You've probably Yeah.

Heather Creekmore [00:09:15]:

And then I would say yeah. I would probably say something like, well, of course, God wants me to have a healthy body. That's how I glorify him is by having a body that, you know, is an acceptable weight and looks a certain way. It's hard for me not to do, like, it's hard for me to go back there fully. Right? But but I think I I would have thought, yeah, like, it's God's desire for me to I wouldn't have said look good. Right? Because that sounds like vanity, but it's God's desire for me to have a kind of relationship with food that makes my body look a certain way.

Amy Carlson [00:09:57]:

Mhmm. Mhmm.

Heather Creekmore [00:09:59]:

Because otherwise, I look like I'm I probably would have maybe said a glutton. Right? It might appear that I'm a glutton or I don't have self control around food.

Amy Carlson [00:10:09]:

Yeah. So this is so good. Like, I mean, right, you and I could un unpack 10 sessions today. We could just keep going and going. So I get that in session, what you're saying. That that those that very language, those very words are not uncommon, especially, interestingly, further along in recovery when women are starting to get freer and they're so afraid to share their story because they feel like others will think, well, how can she be glorifying God in that body? Let's say whatever that body is.

Heather Creekmore [00:10:47]:

Right.

Amy Carlson [00:10:48]:

Now that just makes my palm sweat. I just, I feel so tender. I feel so, compassionate and and just, I feel so tender towards that because that is so, again, if you were with me in session, maybe session 4, maybe session 10, maybe session 12, one of the questions the things that we would unpack would be to say, wow. So really what you're saying is, god, help me to appear to other people as though I have self control. So we first, we might just slay that dragon of let's deal with what other people think. Mhmm. Let's deal first with what other people think. Because let's make let this be between you and God, not between you and God and culture, which Yeah.

Amy Carlson [00:11:33]:

You're saying, God, would you please help me in these areas, not so that I can glorify you so that I can be glorified in this body? Right? Other people will think it. And, lord, I will give you praise.

Heather Creekmore [00:11:48]:

Mhmm. Great. I'll give you the credit. God will be lose weight.

Amy Carlson [00:11:52]:

Yes. I will bring it back to you. Right. Really, the the idea is wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

Amy Carlson [00:11:57]:

Wait. Wait. If this is between me and the lord, it isn't that that my deep desire, is it is it for that that we would be free from the the consuming thoughts about food, right, or feeling like I don't have control or or I don't even have a say when I'm around food. And and really that falls into that bigger category of other things that the Lord wants to free us from because he wants him to fill our whole heart. Yeah. He the holy spirit to fill our thoughts. And so the question is okay. Wait a minute.

Amy Carlson [00:12:33]:

Well, it's like, well, we could unpack that. Is it is my desire that I would look like I have self control? Mhmm. Or is my desire that I would actually just operate in that self control? Yeah. And that's between me and the Lord. So this stumbling place is is it that I would look like it, which, again, that's just vulnerable and honest, and I think most of us would say, yeah. That's my desire. I mean Yeah.

Heather Creekmore [00:12:57]:

I want both. I want both. Right. I wanna stop obsessing over the food, and I also wanna look good.

Amy Carlson [00:13:05]:

Yeah. Yeah.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:07]:

And and I'm good good in quotation marks there, but I think that's, you know, common language. Right? I just I wanna look good. I wanna look, quote, unquote, healthy. Yeah. I wanna look like I have a body that, you know Yeah. I'm treating the way, you know, the the the often misused concept.

Amy Carlson [00:13:25]:

Yeah. Like,

Heather Creekmore [00:13:26]:

I have a body that I'm stewarding well.

Amy Carlson [00:13:28]:

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Or my one client, I just wanna look like I eat organic. That's what she said. And I said, that is the best line ever.

Heather Creekmore [00:13:37]:

That's the best line ever. Yes.

Amy Carlson [00:13:39]:

I just wanna look like I eat organic. I'm like, okay. I get that. Yeah. I mean and here's here's the the the pulse of that. You know, you you do such a good job on this show of unpacking, right, cultural norms and and the way that we view those through the church and the way that we adopt those through the church. And the question is, what are my expectations? So if my expectations are that to be, let's say, a good I'm gonna say Christ follower, that I am going to eat a certain way, then we need to just need to ask that question, where did that come from? Mhmm. Right? It may have come from Christian authors.

Amy Carlson [00:14:21]:

It may have come from a podcast you listened to. It may have come from pastors. Mhmm. It may have come from our moms. We've talked about that a lot. It may have come from just church culture. It may have come from the culture as a whole. But the question is, where where is that expectation coming from? Is it coming from the Lord? And and you and I would both say some people would say yes.

Amy Carlson [00:14:41]:

It is coming from the Lord.

Heather Creekmore [00:14:43]:

Yeah. I mean, because I think it's hard to hear his voice among all the thoughts, and I'm gonna use this word in quotations, but conviction. Mhmm. Right? So I go to put my pants on in the morning, and they don't button. Mhmm. And the thought slash feeling I have is, oh, no. I've done something wrong. You know, I inventory what I ate or, you know, didn't eat or, you know, exercise.

Heather Creekmore [00:15:12]:

You know, I inventory my my actions, and then, you know, the result is my pants won't button. Mhmm. And I feel conviction because I feel like as Christians, right, we're always looking for conviction. Right? Yeah. Is that conviction? Is that the Lord convicting me? Yeah. And I feel convicted that I've done something wrong because I've gotten this result. My pants won't button. Mhmm.

Heather Creekmore [00:15:39]:

But I think it's confusing because it's like, wait, is that really conviction? Or is that just all the diet messages? Is that really just shame?

Amy Carlson [00:15:51]:

Yeah. Because it's just reality that my pants are tighter.

Heather Creekmore [00:15:54]:

Right. Right. And well, yeah. And it's like it's there's nothing to be ashamed of in that way. Is it?

Amy Carlson [00:15:59]:

Right.

Heather Creekmore [00:15:59]:

Oh, my period's coming next week. Yes. Yeah. They don't you know? Like, I mean, it could be anything simple. But I do think that there's this misunderstanding for a lot of Christian women that anytime we feel bad

Amy Carlson [00:16:12]:

Mhmm. It's conviction. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a really interesting thought. Yeah.

Amy Carlson [00:16:18]:

I I I think that's right. And, again, if our benchmark is the world and culture, then if I feel bad for this thing, then I should and and, wow, shame. So much shame around our bodies. So much shame around if people really knew, right, who I was. And there's in in all of this, I'm never ever gonna say that the Lord doesn't care about our relationship with food for 1, because God created it. He is the masterful gardener and the one who prepares the banquet table, and he's the one who sits and says, here's your place that only you can fill and goes out and gets anyone who will listen to come sit at the banquet table. And he doesn't say, so you can, you know, have a kale salad. He's like, it's gonna be a feast, a banquet.

Amy Carlson [00:17:05]:

It's going to be the most beautiful, wonderful thing. And so his desire is that we would be in right relationship with his creation, and food is part of that creation. People are part of that. Right? Mhmm. And so right relationship with food is a desire of our heart, and right relationship with my body is is a desire of our heart. And so if you were my my client, that would be one of the things that we where we would begin is what does it mean for you to be in right relationship with your body, and what does it mean for you to be in right relationship with food? What does that mean? Where do we get those messages? I know that you and I have talked about on this on this podcast, the idea of our backpacks being filled with rocks, and we just collect them throughout the years. And it could be a podcast or a lecture or something our best friend used to talk about, or her mom used to talk about, and we just collect these rocks and we just never take them out. And so we're, we're filtering all this messaging.

Amy Carlson [00:18:02]:

And then if we wrap that in some version of theology, I, first of all, I have no idea what to eat because my backpack is so full. I've gotta filter it through all of that, but I also feel some level of guilt, which ex as Christians, sometimes we use that word conviction, but it's really guilt, which leads to shame. Conviction leads to life.

Heather Creekmore [00:18:25]:

Right.

Amy Carlson [00:18:25]:

Right. The holy spirit is convicts us for life, as to bring life, but the enemy brings guilt, right? That that produces shame. And so it's a feeling of guilt. And and there's that question again. There's another question I would ask you in session. Like, right, what is the fruit of that conviction? What's the fruit of your desire to glorify God with your body? Yeah. Right? What's the fruit of that desire is the fruit of that desire so that other people will write, even if they don't say it out loud, but they think it in their heads, they'll praise me, be envious of me, or or or is my desire of my heart that they would know and experience Jesus better because of my life.

Heather Creekmore [00:19:09]:

Yeah.

Amy Carlson [00:19:09]:

And and, honestly, there's so much. I think there's such a I think we're kinda coming back to this place. But if if you look at the old writers, right, just old old Christian writers, it's about it is about dying to self. It's about, you know, crucifying our flesh, Not in I'm gonna dime deny myself double stuff Oreos, but I'm not gonna think about like, it's not it's not about the Oreos. Right? Right. And so it's I do like double stuff Oreos, but side topic. Right? It's like it it is it is this dying of flesh, which is to say the very prayer help me to eat less is about me. Right.

Amy Carlson [00:19:51]:

It's about me. So, god, help me to think about you. Right. Help me to think about you. Like, could that be the desire of my heart? Right. I would and so, again, these are gentle steps that we would work into.

Heather Creekmore [00:20:04]:

Right. Right. Well, because because I'm even thinking, like I think someone's probably hearing that being like, well, I'm not trying to impress anyone. Like, I don't wanna change my body. I just wanna appease me. Right? And they probably wouldn't say it like that directly. Oh, you know, there's probably more more language, but I just like, changing my body or knowing that my relationship with food was more acceptable and acceptable to whom I guess would probably be the question. Right? It's acceptable according to, like, what the influencers kinda tell me is the norm.

Heather Creekmore [00:20:37]:

Right? But knowing that I'm doing that well Yeah. Would help all these feelings, this discontent, this frustration, this obsession, it would help all of that just go away. If I could just do this thing right, then it will fix all of this internal turmoil. Right? And to what degree, Amy? Like, that was my reality. But, like, to what degree is that disordered? Like, is there something else going on where it's like you gotta just, like, woah, back up the buzzers. I can't get pro that's why you need 10 sessions, not 1. Right. Correct.

Heather Creekmore [00:21:18]:

Like like, can can you help help the person who's maybe been like, but I don't have an eating disorder. I don't have disordered eating, like, because I'm just like everyone else. Yeah. Can you kind of flesh flesh out, like, what the distinction might be that maybe, you know, is my behavior normal? Yeah.

Amy Carlson [00:21:35]:

Is are those thoughts normal? Yeah. That's a good question. And and without going into diagnostic criteria, which we could we could certainly do at the end, we can come back and do that. I I will say this. We live in a culture that glorifies and pays for and supports a disordered relationship with food and body. So it is it is very difficult anymore to look at the culture as a reference for what's normal. Mhmm. And so I would often say to people when they're like, is this normal? I would say it is now.

Amy Carlson [00:22:10]:

Mhmm. It is now normal. It has been normalized and it's been normalized in a quest for self improvement, a quest really just culturally for, you know, disease prevention, which is not a bad thing. You know, these many of those things are not a bad thing. And but they're not the main thing. Right? And so one of the things that we get caught up in well, first of all, I would also say that I would say a couple of things. I would ask the question, how much of your time is occupied with this? That helps us understand if you have some version of disordered eating or a disordered relationship with your body and food. Because when your mind is occupied, when you're preplanning what you're eating, when you're not not thinking ahead, like, hey.

Amy Carlson [00:23:03]:

I know what I'm gonna make for dinner. Right. Right? But you're ruminating.

Heather Creekmore [00:23:08]:

I wish I did more of that. Right. Right. Right.

Amy Carlson [00:23:11]:

Gotta write it down. But really ruminating on what I'm going to eat, what I just ate. My thoughts are so occupied with food that I it's distracted from it's distracting me from my life. No. That isn't, healthy. That's not healthy. It may be normal for for for some version of the population, but it isn't healthy. And and here's the other thing I would say.

Amy Carlson [00:23:36]:

When you I wish I could go back and say it just how you said it, but when you said some people might be having the feeling of, I just wanna get this right so that I can be in a body kinda that I'm not distracted and so forth. Mhmm. But one of the questions I would ask in the getting to know somebody is at what weight were you kind of in your lifespan a weight where you were kind of body unaware, but also then, you know, food unaware. And often the goal of it is is under a natural weight. So for that person, so the goal might be, you know, I want to weigh this certain weight and I'll say, what do you have to do? What has to happen in your life? I just asked this question this week. What has to happen in your life for that weight to be normal for you? And they're like, oh, I I'm rigid with my you know, I don't eat carbohydrates. I never have sweets. I don't partake in blah blah blah.

Amy Carlson [00:24:32]:

And I'm like, so in order to maintain and have that weight be that weight, you need to be engaged in disordered behaviors. Mhmm. So it it helps to go. So so your desire is to eat normally and intuitively and maintain this underweight. And so we start to grieve that that's not really those two things. Don't they're not, they don't go hand in hand. And sometimes we're talking about a few pounds. You know, sometimes we're talking about the difference between somebody, you know, being a size 8 or a size 6 and or but sometimes we're talking about, you know, just genetics and, and different things and saying, we're going to grieve while you're you're really the desire of your heart is to be this very, very small size.

Amy Carlson [00:25:18]:

And in order to do that, you need to restrict. And so do you want to be in in disordered behavior? And so we kinda unpack that again of going, wait, I'm asking something for my body that isn't possible. I can't have both these things. I can't Yeah. I can't surrender sort of this natural eating when I'm hungry and stopping my full and being this very underweight for my body. Those two things aren't and so we're constantly striving for something that's not possible, which is making us preoccupied. Right? And we're missing out on this unbelievable goodness of the Lord. Yeah.

Amy Carlson [00:25:53]:

We're we're trading. Right? I mean, it's all through scripture. The whole I mean, the whole story is believers. Right? Trading in this version that they think is better than what God makes for them.

Heather Creekmore [00:26:04]:

Right. Right. Because because immediately, I think about how we start bargaining with ourselves. Yeah. Right? And, you know, bargaining is part of the grief process. Right? Right? But when you get to bargaining and you're like, well,

Amy Carlson [00:26:16]:

you know, I don't have

Heather Creekmore [00:26:17]:

to go all the way back to my disordered eating. I'll just stop eating sugar.

Amy Carlson [00:26:23]:

Right?

Heather Creekmore [00:26:23]:

And then it's not, like, all the way disordered. I'm intuitively eating all the rest of the time, and, you know, I'm just gonna stop eating this one thing. And then, you know, and then if, like, that doesn't work, then you're playing mind games yourself too. Right? But it's but to kinda go back to, like, the theology behind it. Mhmm. Right? It it is the question of what do I really want? Right. And Mhmm. You know, when I use this illustration, you know, I mean, scripture in Matthew, you know, you can't serve both God and mammon, which some translations translate money, but it really means possessions.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:05]:

And I really think in our culture, our bodies, we've objectified them so much that we treat them like possessions. Like, there are cars that we had to tune up and Yeah. Yeah. Pick up and polish up and show off and all those things. Right? So I really think that, like, God or mammon, you can't serve both masters because you're gonna love one and hate the other.

Amy Carlson [00:27:23]:

Yeah.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:24]:

You really feel like that is applicable to what's happening in our culture with the way we think about our bodies. But but how do you help? Oh, okay. I'm gonna go back to being your client now.

Amy Carlson [00:27:37]:

Yes. Happy to help you.

Heather Creekmore [00:27:38]:

I'm gonna just put my other hat on. How do you help me? Because I I make these vows to myself. Right? I promise I'm gonna not eat the thing because I believe my underlying belief is that the thing makes my body a different size. And so if I don't eat the thing, then I'm my body might be able to manipulate or control that. And, of course, I believed all that in my twenties thirties, and now that I'm 50. I know that none of that works for me anymore, but that aside. That's weird. Just just for the older listeners to understand that I I hear you.

Heather Creekmore [00:28:16]:

But but, you know, it used to be that easy in some ways.

Amy Carlson [00:28:20]:

Mhmm.

Heather Creekmore [00:28:23]:

But but that thing had to consume so much of my thoughts. Like, you asked how many thoughts. And, I mean, I probably would have said 10 thoughts an hour Mhmm.

Amy Carlson [00:28:37]:

On a good day

Heather Creekmore [00:28:38]:

if I wasn't super busy, but I'm really great at multitasking. I don't know. Maybe ADHD. ADHD. Like, I could probably have a great conversation with you and be thinking about what I ate or didn't eat or what I should eat at the same time. Right. Right? Right.

Amy Carlson [00:28:50]:

So, like, what how how

Heather Creekmore [00:28:53]:

do I how do I not? How do I stop? Let me say it like that. How do I stop thinking about the chips? Or we've we've already given we've done a shout out for Oreos. I think we gave Cheetos some air time in past episodes. Like, we need, like, ice cream. We have the have we given Ben and Jerry's their due or here in Texas is supposed to be bluebell, I guess we're supposed to say. Let's let's make it bluebell. You bet. How do I not make bluebell the thing I think about most in my life? Oh, friend, it's just getting good.

Heather Creekmore [00:29:25]:

I hope you'll come back next time for the rest of my conversation with Amy Carlson. And I hope something today helped you stop comparing and start living. The COMPARE2 podcast is proud to be part of the Life Audio podcast network. For more great Christian podcasts, go to life audio.com.